1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I saw a UFO and I reported it to the town marshal here and he also saw it in one other 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:08,000 person. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,000 Okay, would you like to describe what you saw? 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:17,000 Yes, it was, I couldn't really tell how big it was but as far as big it was, well the 5 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,000 top of it was fairly dome shaped, pretty round. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Uh huh. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,000 And the bottom of it was round but it was flatter than the top part. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:33,000 It was kind of flattened out at the bottom and it had a red light that seemed to stay 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:37,000 stationary on the back part and a white light that seemed to be towards the front somewhere. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:47,000 And it had a noise, kind of like a chip but it was a lot lighter and it made several slow 11 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 things around the town. 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,000 Okay, but what time did you spot that? 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 It's been about 30 minutes ago. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,000 Okay. 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:59,000 Would you like to talk to the town marshal? 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Okay, and who saw it the longest? 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Uh, me and another boy saw it the same length of time. 18 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:12,000 Uh, incidentally I saw it, I saw the sun, it go by the sun and I saw the sun, I mean the 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,000 moon and the moon being channeled and sort of, you know, kind of giving away its shape. 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 Okay, now was this thing on the move, was it moving? 21 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:28,000 Well, when we first saw it it was stationary over the town or maybe toward the back near 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:34,000 the end of the town and it was stationary there and as we looked at it for a while we 23 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,000 could see it starting to move, you know, and then it made several things around the town 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:46,000 or not in any direction or any pattern but just here and there, you know, and then it 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 slowly went off. 26 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,000 Okay, when it went away which direction did it go? 27 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,000 It went, what direction did it go? 28 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000 South-east. 29 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Okay. 30 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:05,000 And it just moved more or less erratically around the town area? 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,000 In no particular place. 32 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Okay, do you have any estimate of altitude? 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:19,000 I'm not very good on altitude but it wasn't very high, it was lower than what a low-flying plane 34 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,000 would fly. 35 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,000 Okay, you could definitely make out an object. 36 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I can definitely make out the shape of it here. 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 Right, okay. 38 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,000 Do you have any estimate as to how close it got to you? 39 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,000 To me, how close would you say? 40 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:41,000 Oh, always funny. 41 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 It must have been about an eighth of a mile. 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,000 Okay. 43 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,000 That would be from my island. 44 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,000 Any estimate of size, can you compare it with anything? 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:03:01,000 That would be kind of hard to do but if I was to guess I'd say it was probably the length of 46 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 about a size of a boxcar in length. 47 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Okay. 48 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,000 And this was dome-shaped? 49 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Yes. 50 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:18,000 And incidentally, the thing is I didn't know until I talked to the chauffeur but I've been reported, 51 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,000 I think one other time or two other times. 52 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Two other times. 53 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 I didn't know that until tonight. 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 Okay. 55 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 About two different people. 56 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 That was this evening? 57 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Yes, this was this evening. 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,000 Okay. 59 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,000 Okay, can we talk to the gentleman on duty there? 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Yeah. 61 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Good morning. 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Could we get a description of what you saw? 63 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Well, it was like he said, kind of in nearly a bit. 64 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,000 And it flew over the town. 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Oh, I think it was pretty good. 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,000 And what it was, I wanted to screen check the school. 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,000 When I got back there, it was hard for me to hurry up, you know. 68 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,000 And like I said, it kind of made a rumble. 69 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:12,000 I could get a lot lower, you know, wouldn't notice loud. 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,000 And they said it stood kind of over the school, covered over the school there, 71 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,000 a little bit dead quality. 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 And kind of watched it, that's really about all I know. 73 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,000 But I did, I seen the red light, stationary red light, and a white light, 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,000 whenever it was here by City Hall. 75 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Uh-huh. 76 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,000 And I really didn't get, you know, real, real good looking. 77 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 But they did. 78 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,000 And here's another guy here that's been seeing it, Billy Andrews. 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,000 But I did see it. 80 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Okay. 81 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,000 So here at Bennington, Oklahoma. 82 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,000 Okay. 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,000 And you're the Marshal? 84 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,000 Yeah. 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,000 Okay. 86 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,000 The other gentleman is just about to fit what you saw. 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:03,000 Yeah. 88 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 He's standing right here if you'd like to talk to him. 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,000 Okay. 90 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Hello? 91 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,000 Yes, sir. 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,000 We've seen this UFO, we're going, we're kind of rabbit hunting. 93 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,000 And we're down by the school, and we've seen it back on the backside of town. 94 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,000 First I started the store, then I've seen that red light flashing right behind it. 95 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,000 And we come up this way, it started moving. 96 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:29,000 We come up this way and pulled in here to City Hall, tell the Marshal, and he was gone. 97 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,000 We got a real good look at it. 98 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,000 And about the time he came up, got a good look at it. 99 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:39,000 Just like the other guy said, it kind of had some red, beaming lights on it, on the bottom of it. 100 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:42,000 Then that and on the back, that white light on the front. 101 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:48,000 And it kind of hovered, just kind of hovered around in one spot, kind of rocked backwards and forwards. 102 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 It's something like I ain't never seen before. 103 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Okay. 104 00:05:54,000 --> 00:06:01,000 And now did you or just did what you saw pretty much meet the description of what the other gentlemen described? 105 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Yes. 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Okay. 107 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 And he and I were saying at the same time, all three of us. 108 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,000 Oh, okay, very good. 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 Did you see any other aircraft in the area at the time? 110 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,000 No, we sure didn't. 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:11,000 We didn't see nothing around. 112 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:16,000 But it kind of freaked me out, you know, I never seen anything like it before. 113 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 It was hovering so low and it's moving around. 114 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 It's quite a hovering noise, you know. 115 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,000 And I ain't never seen anything like it before, just like this shape, then kind of like this shape. 116 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 It was good size, too. 117 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Real good size. 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 Okay, what would you estimate its size? 119 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Oh, heck, real good depth. 120 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,000 Could you compare it with something? 121 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Oh, yeah. 122 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,000 I know it's a length of a box car and a lot wider. 123 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Okay. 124 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:47,000 Now, did this thing while you were, or you gentlemen were out there watching this, did it approach you at any time? 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:52,000 If it hovered over towards us and went back the other way, kind of rocked back the other way, 126 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,000 then back again and then red beams kind of hit us once or twice there when they come over. 127 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 And then it just moved off real slow like it didn't. 128 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,000 Was there actually shafts of light coming out of this thing? 129 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,000 Yes, it sure was. 130 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Okay, how many were there, do you know? 131 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Well, there was two red lights under the bottom of it, kind of like a, just a beam like it was hitting the ground or something. 132 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,000 Okay. 133 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:22,000 And then that red flash kind of flashed and light on the back and then a big white glowy light on the front. 134 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 I mean, it glowed real big. 135 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:31,000 That's why I didn't most believe it was a star or something because it was real huge and real white glowy light. 136 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:38,000 Okay, now those red shafts of light coming out at the bottom, were they on at all times while it was moving? 137 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,000 They didn't at all times. 138 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,000 They never did flash on and off. 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,000 It was just kind of like a beam of some sort. 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Did that seem to illuminate the ground? 141 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Yes, it did. 142 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,000 Okay. 143 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,000 All right, sir. 144 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Well, if we need any additional information, would it be okay to get back to you? 145 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Yes, sure. 146 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:57,000 We would. 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,000 This other guy here, he talked earlier. 148 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 He needs a few more words. 149 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Okay. 150 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,000 When you asked him if it flashed, I noticed that it seemed to be close. 151 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 It didn't flash at all. 152 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Nothing seemed to flash. 153 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,000 But then as it got further out, it seemed like it started flashing. 154 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 The white light was all we could see then. 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,000 And then it just moved away? 156 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,000 Yeah, it just went away. 157 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,000 Okay. 158 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,000 And you saw these red beams of light also? 159 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,000 Oh, it was just a red light on it. 160 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:32,000 It might have appeared to be, it was a, the white light was pretty bright when it got, you know, when you look right up into it. 161 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,000 But there were no beams flashing down, you know. 162 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,000 It might have appeared to be that way, but it's just light. 163 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Okay. 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Well, if we need additional information, would you be alright to get back to you? 165 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 Yes, I'd like that. 166 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,000 Okay. 167 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Well, we're going to check this thing out and if we come up with any answers on it, why we'll get back to you gentlemen and let you know about it. 168 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,000 Okay. 169 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,000 We sure appreciate your calling. 170 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,000 Okay. 171 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,000 Thank you very much. 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Huh? 173 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,000 Yes, sir. 174 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,000 We spotted it again. 175 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,000 It just keeps hovering over and over, kind of making a wide circle around the town. 176 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Okay. 177 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Is this the same identical thing? 178 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,000 The same identical thing. 179 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 What kind of maneuvers is this thing making over the town? 180 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:24,000 It comes in just a wide circle, it comes straight across the world, more like a square. 181 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:30,000 It goes down and circles way back over out, out city limits and back over again. 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 Uh-huh. 183 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Here's the other guy, he was winning. 184 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,000 Okay. 185 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:36,000 Sir? 186 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Yes. 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:42,000 I don't want to bother you anything, but it did make the two more passes back over the town if it's important or anything. 188 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,000 Okay. 189 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,000 Now, is this giving off the same sound? 190 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,000 Yes, it's the very same sound. 191 00:09:48,000 --> 00:10:00,000 The only thing different is we noticed that there seems to be two red lights, one that doesn't flash when you look at it from some way and then when you look at it from another way, it does flash white and then red. 192 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,000 Uh-huh. 193 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,000 We saw the bottom of it this time. 194 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,000 There seems to be a few more lights. 195 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,000 I can't tell sure how many, but we saw the bottom of it. 196 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,000 I think it's bigger than what we first said. 197 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,000 Okay, now did it come directly overhead? 198 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 It came directly overhead. 199 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Okay. 200 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Is this thing circular? 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 Uh-huh. 202 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,000 Yes, it looks like it starts to fall. 203 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:32,000 At least the front party, that's the part where the white light can be seen. 204 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:37,000 Okay, now did you notice anything else in the way of openings in this thing at all? 205 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:42,000 No, we couldn't see that close. No openings. I couldn't tell. 206 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,000 Okay, how high do you think it was when it went directly overhead? 207 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:51,000 This time it was about the same as what a low flying plane would be. 208 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:52,000 Uh-huh. 209 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Okay, it's still giving off the same old sound. 210 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Yeah, and he said it's coming back too. 211 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:05,000 This is a small town. We wouldn't wake a bunch of people up if we thought it was doing it good. 212 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,000 Uh-huh. 213 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Is there any, what is there, did you have anything in particular in that town that it would be looking at? 214 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,000 I can't, that's one thing I can't figure out. 215 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 It's flowing this time. Can I go outside and look at it? 216 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 Sure, go ahead. 217 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,000 I'm looking at it. 218 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,000 Uh-huh. 219 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,000 It's flowing this time. It's substantially flowing. 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,000 But it hasn't got overhead yet. It's moving even slower than before. 221 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 And they want to know if there's anything you want to know about this. 222 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Well, anybody got a camera around? 223 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,000 We sure don't. I wish we did, I really. 224 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Okay, well, what is this, strictly farming country in that area? 225 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Yes, it's a farming town, yes. 226 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,000 Do you have any, are there any hydroelectric dams or power stations? 227 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Not in this area, it's just a, I don't know what, what things want. 228 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:01,000 Some of the last one now, just a second. 229 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Just turned sideways in the back right way. 230 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,000 Okay. Is there any air bases in that area? 231 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,000 Air bases? 232 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Yeah. 233 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:20,000 The closest one's about, oh, seven miles away, I guess. 234 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,000 And it's just a tiny, the next town is Durand, Oklahoma. 235 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Uh-huh. 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Is it the one I speak of, just a little runway? 237 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Yeah, okay. 238 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Well, I'll tell you what you do. 239 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:38,000 If that thing continues to show and maneuver around the area, would you keep some notes on it? 240 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Yes, I would. 241 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:46,000 And then we'll get back to you and check out and just see what follow-up information you've got. 242 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,000 Making another turn back this way, too. 243 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,000 Uh-huh. 244 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,000 This thing's weird, I know, but it's true, absolutely. 245 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,000 How are the sky conditions there tonight? 246 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,000 They're, let me just, it's real clear, isn't it? 247 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Everything, the stars are all shining, it's real clear now. 248 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Okay, now what time did that show up the second time? 249 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,000 The second time just a few minutes before we called you. 250 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Just a few minutes, okay. 251 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:19,000 Okay, well, we appreciate this report again and they won't be necessary to make another call, but do keep notes. 252 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,000 We will keep notes. 253 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,000 And then we'll get back to you later and find out what happened. 254 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,000 Okay, can I ask you one question? 255 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Yes. 256 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:34,000 There's no possibility that this could be a jet of any kind that's, because, um, I mean, they don't have anything like this that can be stationary, do they? 257 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,000 I wouldn't know, not stopping, no, no. 258 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 And I don't think any small jet would fly or anything like that.